
Episode 22 · Apr 15, 2026
Why Marine Layer Thinks Agentic Commerce Is the New SEO
Michael Natenshon
Founder, Marine Layer
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About this episode
Natenshon established Marine Layer from a single product he couldn’t find, investing eighteen months in fabric development before launching a pop-up focused on collecting customer contacts. This unplanned retail strategy evolved into 50+ physical locations. The discussion covers disciplined expansion (5–10 stores annually), omnichannel logistics, complementary founder dynamics, and contemporary commerce strategy. Key themes include how financial constraints fostered operational excellence, why product pages require AI-discovery optimization, and the company’s measured stance on advertising within AI assistants, describing agentic commerce as “the next version of SEO.”